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21/04/2005
灣仔大舞台 24人art jamming
咋晚第一次跟「現場灣仔」的artists及工作人員會面，大家在那間其實不十分灣仔的「表哥茶餐廳」邊吃邊聽project breifing. 很佩服今次攪手林嵐，她個子小巧，卻是滿身活力，爽朗有勁，本身是雕塑家，為了促成今次國際交流，放下創作人的身份，全力當起藝術行政，由零開始，由說服其他創作人她不為名不為利只為事，為香港視覺藝術做點事開始。還有寫計劃書、籌經費、成立ngo.....還有...數不盡的時間....。
香港的創作生態。怎樣說。不談有沒有培植的土壤，即使有心做，得首要完成第一件作品：為自己創建創作的空間及機會。費勁地在經濟主導生活下創立機會後，再去想如何維持。維持創作和維持生計卻是兩件事。好運的，二合一，全職創作是少數；等運到的，是大多數。於是，有人分文不收，不計較心力付出去攪交流，難怪招人懷疑。疲憊不堪，眼皮已半垂的另一攪手pheobe說來仍有火，語帶不屑，說：「係呀，你仲要用好多力氣去同那些人解釋...」
為免利益衝突，林嵐及民間博物館的朋友都不會參與今次為期一個月，共有二十四名來自世界各地及香港的視覺藝術家聚在灣仔，一起生活的Art Jamming project。
記得較早前，問民間博物館成員之一的Howard：「Howard，你最近有沒有做自己野﹖」「有，這個project，不就是我的創作嗎﹖」
其實，這個project原本跟我無關的，因為參加的大都是視覺藝術家，也有作曲及聲音藝術、形體及行為藝術家以及建築師，卻是沒有文字人。於是我膽粗粗，又心有不甘地，跟認識才不久的林嵐說想加入她/他們。大概，她/他們明白我這份傻勁及渴望交流的貪婪，最終，讓我跟其他兩位來自英國及台灣的女孩子，當起Observer，大會對我們甚至沒有要求，給予很大的信任及空間來紀錄今次藝術家活在社區的創作活動和經驗。希望我可以寫下有趣的東西。
17:10 永久網址 | 留言 (19) | Email this
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Do you know you are writing a text for publicity of their event?
Why don't you send it to the newspaper? If they use you text, you may be more easy to get a job!!!
發表人: cc | 21/04/2005
or, you should join iatc:
http://www.iatc.com.hk
have you heard about it? in fact, siu sai is one of the member!!!
發表人: cc | 21/04/2005
also, you could like Howard their lots to form a group with your classmates and apply HKADC grant, ie, Manage & Design programs for Shanghai Street Artspace:
http://www.hkadc.org.hk/ad/comm_shs0506/index_eng.htm
therefore, you could make your living and keep on working in HK cultural circle, and no need to beg for a position without paid!!!
發表人: cc | 21/04/2005
cc: 謝謝意見，只是，我寫我的感覺，也許寫得太多宣傳稿了，技巧內化了，哈哈，不過在香港攪創作活動，的確容易兩面不討好，有人以為你/妳懶有野，有人以為妳/你博什麼....
其實早在三年前，我已跟另外一些朋友成功得到上海街的藝術空間，情況不如妳(還是你?)在說般理想，adc 只提供場地，跟生活費無關。我也從不會向人/政府/組織乞求什麼，拿些什麼位子，做些什麼，創作人的確要自找方法，不需別人支助，我參加「現場灣仔」純出於自願，很想知道文字跟其他藝術創作有沒有jamming的可能，很想知道空降二十四位「藝術家」，有沒有可能跟社區發生關係。
而iatc，十多年前跟他們的會長張輝工作過，不是我杯茶，謝謝意見。
發表人: cally | 22/04/2005
i don't think you have ran Shanghai Street Artspace!! Hope you could be honest to yourself!!! You cannot earn money from the art circle anymore since the people in the art circle is so poor!! and also hope you will not "use" the others so-call "your friends"!!!
發表人: cc | 22/04/2005
if you have ran Shanghai Street Artspace 3 years ago, you should know Longtin their lots well & no need to beg Howard Chan & Phoebe Wong for a position without any commission in their project!! A begging writing position, i.e. YOU ARE NOTHING!!!
I think you are better to following the guide of Woo Yan Wai's book to walk around Hong Kong & understand what is "Hong Kong Culture"!!!
發表人: cc | 22/04/2005
cc:
言重了, 我大概年紀大了，忘了成功申請上海街工作室的年份，希望那些跟我一起申請的人，仍然視我是朋友;-) 你/妳也說對了一半，我們沒有run那個地方，當然了，我們不過是以hk$1租金向adc借一個地方，其實跟賺不賺錢沒有關係，不知道為何閣下為話中有火﹖有什麼不愉快的經驗嗎﹖
跟朗天是十年的朋友了，跟灣仔project不知有什麼關係，很想聽聽閣下見解﹖民間博物館的朋友也沒有要我求他們什麼，請不要誤會，可能我的文字有放大成份，只是他們構思project時，沒有想起找文字人罷，現在這個合作形式也不錯。另，所有參加的藝術工作者都不收費用的。
有關香港文化，我想，它無處不再，也包括當下、當時，我們此番討論。
發表人: cally | 22/04/2005
I see I see!!
So, you are the kind of person in theHK art circle who "use" the others so-call "your friends" and you cannot get a position with REASONABLE PAYMENT!!!
Poor you!!
Bless you!!
發表人: cc | 22/04/2005
cc：咦，你咪係Candy？好耐冇見，最近撈乜嘢？
發表人: af | 23/04/2005
in fact, i never see you & i don't know who is "Candy". i only know you & your friends studying MA in Lingnam and writing something "crap". i think you lots are the kind of cannot get a job after doing BA therefore go back to school to get a higher cert.
God bless Hong Kong!!
發表人: cc | 23/04/2005
hope you could think about WHY you are doing cultural study!! actually, before you choose the subject you are going to study, you have to think about what kind of job you would like to do and if you could get a job after doing this subject!!!
Why Cultural Study(from your school website!!)
AIMS
To provide a challenging bilingual education to enable students:
1. to engage actively in the contemporary analysis of culture; to become sensitive to, and critical of, the issues of identity, value and affection with which the various forms of culture they study are concerned;
2. to be aware of the complex interplay between the modern self, society and history through intensive work in an inter-disciplinary curriculum; to learn how the multiple perspectives with which people see the world today are crucial to our understanding of contemporary cultural realities; and
3. to open themselves intellectually to the wide-ranging texts and contexts that have been transforming the conditions of life in the contemporary world, so as to develop a capacity for independent judgement on the cultural practices and social institutions they must deal with today.
OBJECTIVES
Our curriculum is designed to help students:
1. to acquire a solid grounding in the humanities, as well as to develop the intellectual and linguistic ability to express themselves clearly on a variety of cultural issues
2. to benefit from an inter-disciplinary framework of study, through which divergent approaches to culture as value, commodity and representation can be integrated;
3. to make a comparative study of global patterns of cultural representation, imagination, and institutional formations in the modern world, and to analyse living examples of contemporary culture in the local contexts;
4. to form a critical perspective on the social and historical forms of cultural practice in an Asian cosmopolitan city such as Hong Kong, and to develop an understanding of local cases in the light of international Cultural Studies; and
5. to cultivate a firm sense of self-orientation in their social and career life, as well as to reflect critically and creatively upon the current cultural situation and changing historical condition of Hong Kong in particular and China in general.
發表人: cc | 23/04/2005
這個cc君的說法十分奇特，好像只是有工作的人才有權探討藝術及參與藝術創作，這講法就像某商人認為只有納稅人才有權參與選舉一樣，而參與藝術創作的目的就只是要為找到一份工作，這說法完全是侮辱了所有業餘及半業餘的藝術工作者。
有關他/她對嶺南MA Program的批評，我雖然對課程認識不深，但知道很多藝術界及公民社會的工作者都盛讚這個課程，亦相信這個課程能幫助學員於不同領域上的工作(包括受薪、業餘或義務工作)，不知為什麼cc君會對一個有關文化研究的課程有這麼大的反應？反而現時無數由各所大學開辦的所謂碩士課程，就是要幫助報讀的學員達到所謂增值以求升職加薪的目的，難道這就是cc君所認同的學習的目的？
發表人: Yuensir | 24/04/2005
薩依德(E.W. Said)說得很有意思，他認為「業餘性」(amateurism)的價值是「不為利益或獎賞所動，只是為了喜愛和不可抹煞的興趣，而這些喜愛和興趣在於更遠大的景象、越過界線和障礙、拒絕被某個專長所束縛、不顧一個行業的限制而喜好眾多的觀念和價值。」
-- quote from an art commentry
發表人: 瘋腿 | 24/04/2005
it is hard to discuss with someone "lying" to herself.
it is better to you to close your blog since you are not "discuss' to anyone!!
actually, hong kong need some new blood who really could devote to hong kong art. but unfortunately, there are too many know nothing about hong kong art scene but pretend to know a lot. they pretend to be a "volunteer" but looking for a lot of reward in the other side.
do you understand what is the function of "blog"? making noise in the public & earn a lot of money as reward?! does it mean you really want to devote something by no reward at all to your society?? i think it is no need to read a wisdom from a famous philosopher but thinking by your own "brain"!!
發表人: cc | 25/04/2005
being honest, i am one of your classmate! i always think i am writing sheet for the school paper. i think you are the one very active & know a lot about hong kong culture. i go to do the course since i am doing nothing after my BA and this MA course is so easy to get in so i get in without any reason.
i always think my classmates are so smart. but now i find that they are all as crap as me. i will report to my tutor!!
發表人: cc | 25/04/2005
cally, i was shock. how could anyone saying things to you as if s/he knows everything and the degree of assuming things is so awful...
anyways...
will be back in late may. MUST MUST MUST see you! :-)
發表人: ahsun | 25/04/2005
it is even harder to discuss with someone who is paranoid...
發表人: xina | 26/04/2005
CANDY(CC)，稍安無燥。
發表人: af | 26/04/2005
well, you could HACK into people's website, therefore, you are a hacker & are you doing "programming" b4? that you are Ivy Ma's old classmate from CityU. And you could hack into anyone's website to steal their info & help Ivy Ma to making artwork since Ivy Ma only could copy the other artist who post their work on their website!!!
does she give you money?
hope you won't hack into Candy's website again since I am not Candy. I am just using her computer!!!
發表人: cc | 29/04/2005
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